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Katie: Hi, and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E at the finish. And this episode is all about state-of-the-art mind regenerative generation and stay your mind wholesome as you age. I’m right here with Dr. Greg Eckel, who has spent the remaining 20+ years of his existence creating and refining his distinctive method to persistent neurological stipulations. Along with his enjoy in medical observe the usage of a mix of naturopathic and Chinese language drugs, he has a deep private reference to this, which he explains in his personal phrases, initially of this podcast. And he took a deep dive into this analysis and has been at the entrance finish of a few in reality state-of-the-art generation, however we additionally discuss some commonplace on a regular basis issues we will be able to all do to reinforce our mind well being. We discuss such things as what misfolded proteins are and what they do within the mind, why we’re seeing a upward thrust in brain-related stipulations, the unexpected issue he sees in lots of brain-related illnesses, and it’s now not what you suppose, what Vsels are, which might be very small embryonic stem cells, and the way this with sure lasers are offering in reality superb anti-aging and mind well being effects. After which into extra large such things as nutrition, dietary supplements, sleep and different elements that in reality have an effect on the mind. Undoubtedly numerous knowledge on this one. So, let’s sign up for Dr. Greg. Dr. Eckel, welcome.

Dr. Greg: Oh, thanks.

Katie: I’m excited to talk with you concerning the mind, particularly. However earlier than we bounce into that, I’ve a notice in my display notes that claims that you simply hooted the noticed owl at the Olympic Peninsula, and I’ve to grasp what that tale used to be.

Dr. Greg: Neatly, I discuss owl. In order an undergrad, I used to be in reality fascinated by wooded area ecology and environmental science, I nonetheless am. I if truth be told I believe we must all have a bumper decal that claims, “Save the people,” now not simply save the whales. However I paintings for the Wooded area Provider in Quilcene. It’s at the Olympic Peninsula at probably the most gorgeous puts on the earth, and I realized name or hoot the noticed owl.

I keep in mind Jay, he used to be from North Carolina, he used to be a part of the Wooded area Conservation Council, and we principally put little recordings and we have been like, within the bathe within the mornings like, hoo, hoo, like hooting like an owl, after which we might pass out. We in any case, you realize, it used to be this type of rush the primary time I did it. Was once, you realize, you power as much as the highest of the mountain most sensible and also you hoot out the decision, they usually solution again and it simply makes the hair in your arm stand on edge. It’s, like, so gorgeous. So all summer time we hooted the noticed owl, so it’s more or less a a laugh, you realize, celebration trick whilst you’re tenting up there, to speak to the owls.

Katie: That’s superb. I’m rather sure you’re my first visitor ever who speaks owl. That’s in reality cool.

Dr. Greg: Sure. They’re one among my, you realize, totem animals at this level. Sure.

Katie: I find it irresistible. Neatly, that, in and of itself is attention-grabbing, however now not if truth be told what you’re identified for. You’re identified in your paintings in mind regeneration and mind well being. In an effort to get started large, I would like to listen to how you were given into that house initially?

Dr. Greg: You already know, this tale begins 11 years in the past with the assembly of Soraya. And Soraya used to be 6’1, dreadlocks all the way down to the ground, in reality simply an important goddess. And he or she discovered her manner into my coronary heart like no person ever on the earth had ever finished earlier than. And, you realize, we mixed our households, it used to be her 3 youngsters and my two youngsters. We even had a maid named Alice like “The Brady Bunch.” We mixed our scientific practices, and she or he used to be an authorized nurse-midwife, nurse practitioner, I’m a naturopathic physician, and the entirety used to be simply going simply nice.

And you realize, if truth be told, it used to be higher than nice. It used to be superb and magical. After which we moved and Soraya become obsessive about this one orange Fiestaware plate. And, you realize, I assumed giant…glance, we transfer issues get misplaced, you realize. But it surely used to be this one plate, it become like an eerie Groundhog Day and dinner dialog with me and the youngsters of like, “What’s happening?” “Mother’s in search of that plate once more.” And you realize, she would pass during the kitchen after which the cabinets after which down the hallway the place we saved the tenting equipment, to the storage, after which in any case finally end up within the attic. She’d come again pissed off. After which, you realize, an afternoon or two later she’d do the similar factor, and it began to turn into regarding in that.

Then 3 months pass through, Chelsea, my place of business supervisor someday got here to me and mentioned, “Howdy, Document, Soraya simply left the construction.” I mentioned, “What are you speaking about?” Stated, “Neatly, she simply left the construction. She used to be in her white lab coat and stethoscope and simply began wandering across the streets of Portland, Oregon.” And at that second in time, I knew that we had to do one thing. And we cleared the agenda, and that used to be simply 3 months proper between shifting to when she strolled out of the sanatorium.

And you realize, we went in search of answers and solutions and at that time, you realize, she used to be 42, we idea it used to be the overall culprits. Perhaps it used to be, you realize, perimenopause early, or mildew toxicity, or, you realize, one of the issues that you’d suppose for any person that younger. Neatly, thankfully, I’ve all the time mentioned she used to be one in 1,000,000 being, however sadly, the professionals agreed with me on that and she or he were given this analysis referred to as CJD, Creutzfeldt-Jakob illness, which is a unprecedented about 330 circumstances of North The united states a yr. And it’s a abruptly progressing dementia and not using a identified remedy.

Now, I being, you realize, uniquely located as husband and doctor, I swung for the fence. What I came upon didn’t assist Soraya one iota. I imply, we, you realize, at some extent in a development and perhaps your listeners can relate to this, you realize, you’re in search of answers and solutions and also you’re simply now not getting them. So sooner or later, you need to, with grace and numerous prayer more or less, now not throw the towel in, however exchange your outlook and expectancies.

And so, I switched from looking for answers to simply surrounding her with love. And, you realize, when she handed, our nurse-midwife more or less demise doula mentioned it used to be essentially the most gorgeous demise she had ever attended. You don’t in reality pay attention that so ceaselessly whilst you discuss loss or any person’s demise. But it surely additionally, you realize, I didn’t need my struggling to be for naught. And so I, you realize, more or less bushwhacked and made it up as I went, as a result of there have been no answers for neurodegeneration. So, you realize, I’ve a roadmap, I invite other people to mention you don’t have to move it on my own and we’ve got numerous choices for you.

So I temporarily become a mind regenerative specialist in that procedure. Or even via my grief, the loss, and that entire procedure, you realize, I got here out entire with an open coronary heart and only a zest for the preciousness of existence, and a fireplace and a keenness to assist as many of us as I will with neurodegeneration of their mind well being, after which even on a long life entrance. So, you realize, I suppose I arrived in mind regeneration in a college of onerous knocks there, and in reality went for it. And in reality, I more or less name them Soraya’s items, is what we use.

Katie: Wow, what a formidable tale. And, I’m sorry she’s now not with us anymore however it sounds such as you’ve in point of fact discovered the items and the gratitude in that and the usage of it to assist such a lot of people which I’m positive she could be so satisfied to peer.

Dr. Greg: Yeah, you realize, it’s attention-grabbing, whilst she’s now not in her frame, she in reality is right here with us and in this type of gorgeous manner, that’s the piece for me that I’ve this zest for. We don’t understand how lengthy we’re on the earth and the way lengthy we get to, you realize, if truth be told really feel and style and contact and glance in folks’s eyes. And so it simply offers this richness to what we’re doing right here. There’s a regulation of physics, proper, that power can’t be destroyed or created, it best adjustments shape. So I love to mention she left her frame perhaps manner too quickly, however she’s nonetheless found in so, such a lot of tactics. And simply the lives that we’re serving to right here and the conversations we get into folks, it’s in reality relatively atypical.

Katie: Wow, it strikes a chord in my memory of the stoic phrases, Souvenir Mori, “Take into accout your demise,” which if truth be told I’ve tattooed on my wrist as a reminder of that exact same factor of we don’t understand how lengthy we’re right here. And the way will we make the most efficient of it and assist the the general public within the time that we’ve got? And I do know that this, from my analysis, no less than, led for your very special approach that still can contain serving to folks with Parkinson’s which may not be all the focal point of this podcast. We’ll indubitably pass large into extra basic mind well being. However I would like to simply pay attention a bit little bit of excessive point about that as neatly.

Dr. Greg: So this element…so I mentioned Soraya used to be one in 1,000,000 and this analysis of Creutzfeldt-Jakob illness is set 300 circumstances a yr in North The united states. So I didn’t wish to concentrate on CJD, however I were given in at the prionic textbooks. So prions are misfolded proteins that don’t have any genetic subject matter in them, they’re very atypical. And oftentimes, whilst you see them within the literature, they’re referred to as infectious brokers.

And in there, Parkinson’s is in there, beta-amyloid plaque for Alzheimer’s and dementia, there are tau proteins, Lewy frame proteins of dementia. So there’s all of those misfolded protein illnesses, which is neurodegeneration. So I picked Parkinson’s as a result of, you realize, I’d been in observe at that time, 17 years, I’m now 21 years in observe, and I had numerous other people with that analysis. And it’s like, wow, neatly, I’m uncovering those remedies that may in reality assist with this. And so we put them in combination in what I name my FAN-C method to Parkinson’s illness. So I wrote a e book referred to as “Shake it Off: An Integrative Option to Parkinson’s Answers.” Now, there are different e book titles coming round the entire sides of mind well being, so in case your listeners and audience are gazing they usually’re like, “Neatly, I don’t have Parkinson’s illness.” Hold in there as a result of this is applicable to in reality our mind well being, is the dialogue.

However I sought after to in reality area of interest out and concentrate on those other people with this one analysis of Parkinson’s. And so I wrote a e book on it, I’ve a summit at the similar identify, after which I’ve were given a larger broader Mind Regeneration Summit. However at the procedure, that’s how I picked Parkinson’s. It used to be a large portion of my observe on the time. And the treatments, principally, the Soraya’s items that I discovered in reality used to be appropriate and I put that into my framework, which I name my FAN-C method to mind well being.

Katie: And I might bet from, I haven’t studied mind well being just about as in-depth, clearly, as you have got. However in learning different spaces of well being, it kind of feels like incessantly excessive circumstances of illness may give us more or less a in reality attention-grabbing perception into what early levels appear to be and/or at the turn facet, what optimum seems like and more or less that development. And turns out like we will be able to take the intense after which find out how we will be able to all reinforce from the ones circumstances.

Dr. Greg: This is it. That’s so true. And so, you realize, what we’re seeing in sanatorium…so I’m now not announcing I’m curing illness in any way. However we’re seeing degree two Alzheimer’s opposite, we’re seeing Parkinson’s illness, folks don’t have any proof of illness anymore. One affected person specifically that I’ll percentage her tale with, Cindy, got here in, she used to be in reality debilitated with a tremor, couldn’t dress anymore. And principally used to be caught on her sofa as a result of she used to be falling over, even with a three-sided strolling fortify she used to be nonetheless injuring herself relatively just a little. And beautiful depressed at that as a result of, you realize, principally debilitated at the sofa with Parkinson’s. She discovered us and got here out to the sanatorium for what I name Camp Nature Remedies, it’s the enjoy of mind regeneration right here. And we handled her in that procedure.

And I were given a decision from her a few yr later and she or he mentioned, “Dr. Eckel, you’ll by no means bet what.” I mentioned, “You’re proper, Cindy, I can by no means bet what. What’s up?” She support, “My husband simply instructed me to decelerate strolling within the park.” I mentioned, “Wow, when is the remaining time he mentioned that to you?” And he or she mentioned it’s been over a decade. She had the analysis for 10 years, and principally, simply, you realize, used to be temporarily going into full-on incapacity, now not ready to transport off the sofa. She in reality were given her existence again.

Now, whilst I will’t declare that for everyone that we deal with, we’ve got a few 95% good fortune price of making improvements to their high quality of existence right here with our FAN-C means. And that’s, we depart the door open for that to happen. And we’re iterating always I’m within the analysis and finding out an increasing number of about how will we assist folks’s brains regenerate. And on that, you realize, it even is going to the purpose of mind well being and longevity. So from treating precisely what you mentioned, treating the illness procedure and repairing there, neatly, then you’ll get into prevention. After which, we will be able to get into the longevity dialogue, which the ones are all so a laugh to get into. However, you realize, we’re seeing issues that don’t seem to be taking place different puts all over the world with those sufferers.

Katie: That’s fantastic. And also you discussed the time period beta-amyloid plaques. And I’d love so that you can outline this a bit bit extra as a result of I don’t understand it in an overly nuanced mind well being manner, however I indubitably come throughout this phrase incessantly in numerous my studying, and in analysis, and the way this appears to be a key in numerous these items which can be happening. My fundamental working out is that these items can building up within the mind. And for example, like, deep sleep is the time when our frame flushes cerebral spinal fluid and is helping spoil the ones down. However that’s concerning the extent of my working out. So are you able to give us a bit primer?

Dr. Greg: Yeah. So the beta-amyloid plaques are round…they’re misfolded proteins that get knotted up. They’re referred to as neurofibrillary tangles, they’ll get in there and the technical time period is that they’re gonna muck up your mind. In order that they get in there they usually reason mayhem they usually get started different cells to misfold. So different protein constructions will misfold they usually more or less “unfold” and I’m doing giant citation marks with that. In that, they’re signaling different cells to misfold. So then that’s what stops the transmission of the neurons and leads into dementia signs or Alzheimer is the largest type of dementia, Lewy frame dementia, the ones all pass into the reminiscence loss, and many others. So the ones are associated with, in Parkinson’s illness, it’s referred to as alpha-synuclein is the misfolded protein. So that you hit it spot on along with your working out there.

Katie: K. And as you discussed, confidently, the general public listening don’t seem to be coping with Alzheimer’s dementia or Parkinson’s. But it surely does appear to be those stipulations are all on the upward push and doubtlessly taking place at previous ages. So conceivably, folks listening will have one of the both chance elements or early levels and now not understand it. Why do you suppose we’re seeing a upward thrust in those stipulations at the moment?

Dr. Greg: I believe it’s multifold. I imply, there may be one element on ranges of toxicity in our global. So you may even see some commercials available in the market round, you realize, roundup, glyphosate, sure insecticides related to triggering Parkinson’s. There are heavy metals in the environment that get lodged into our mind that may be at reason. At the reminiscence loss, it’s an enchanting element that it’s virtually within the innate knowledge of the frame. I’m seeing unresolved traumas on the root of numerous that. It’s virtually as though the innate knowledge says you haven’t handled that trauma, and we’re going to give protection to you at this level.

And there’s a hyperlink and now this can be a running speculation on my section. However even on ancestral traumas, as we’ve been on the earth for longer and longer classes of time, we’re sporting those genetic lineages of our households and doing…you realize, this piece that I went via with Soraya, we in reality were given into what will have brought about this to start out within the first position? As a result of that’s the trillion-dollar query of why do proteins misfold?

And ancestral trauma has if truth be told arise at the checklist so far as growing epigenetic adjustments that then are rippling out in our generations now. So it’s multifactorial, there’s nutrition, there’s vitamin, there’s unresolved traumas, there’s circle of relatives lineage, the ancestral element to it. So all of it provides up, after which by yourself genetic platform as neatly. So there are some nuances there so far as how do you unpack that for any person in a logical type? How do you examine that every one in combination, and hanging it right into a plan that can get you traction and motion.

Katie: That’s so attention-grabbing. I used to be just lately requested through a chum at a cocktail party, what do you suppose is the best reason for human struggling? And my solution used to be unresolved trauma on account of a few of my very own enjoy in the previous couple of years. And that more or less routine theme that appears to be appearing up in numerous, for your level, persistent well being stipulations. And particularly the generational facet, which used to be a brand new analysis pathway for me.

I had Mark Wolynn on just lately, who authored “It Didn’t Get started with You.” And he defined what you mentioned, that epigenetic exchange. And I’m excited for the way forward for that analysis. I believe it’s nice that we’re seeing and beginning to take into account that it’s extra than simply the sum of the bodily inputs going within the frame. And I believe that turns out like, particularly with the mind, gonna be an overly, essential pathway to move down in endured analysis.

So I believe like we neatly established why those are issues and more or less what the intense variations of them appear to be. I’ve additionally noticed you write and say that you simply plan to reside to be 150 years outdated, which will require an attractive wholesome mind and an attractive wholesome frame. So I’m curious to more or less construct that bridge now and communicate concerning the sure facet of all this, which is what are we able to do to reinforce our mind well being?

Dr. Greg: Yeah, needless to say. What has given me some chutzpah, as a way to discuss, is seeing a few of these persistent neurodegenerative stipulations opposite to the purpose of no proof of illness. And it’s miraculous, to mention the least, as it’s now not intended to occur. You’re now not intended to get your mind again after it’s been broken. And in seeing that, and having the privilege to sit down with 90-year-old sufferers announcing, you realize, numerous the theme with the 90-year-olds is, if I had identified I used to be going to reside this lengthy, I might have taken higher care of myself. And so, you realize, it used to be like, neatly…so I took it to coronary heart. I used to be like, “K, neatly, I’m being attentive to that. And if I wanna reside to be 150, that suggests,” you realize, simply issues begin to exchange whilst you begin to mission available in the market. However we also are residing at an important time. We’ve got generation now this is appearing age reversal. So there’s a method to measure the age of your cells, now not simply the chronologic age of like, ok, I’m 51 years on the earth, however how outdated do my cells suppose they’re?

And also you’ve noticed this with you realize, buddies or any person is identical age as you and both they give the impression of being in reality manner more youthful than you and also you’re like, how are you doing that? Or they give the impression of being in reality older, you realize, 10 to twelve, 15 years older. Like perhaps they have been a smoker, perhaps that they had numerous unresolved trauma, or you realize, who is aware of what their scenario used to be, however they elderly faster. And so we’re appearing on biologic age about 2.6 years age reversal. So my cells are telling me that they’re 12 and a part years more youthful. And that feels in reality just right. I additionally really feel that younger as neatly. So you realize, when folks are available in and say, “Oh, I’m simply getting outdated, it’s simply you realize, standard growing old.” I’m like, “No, I name hogwash on that commentary.”

You already know, the growing old that we’re selling in our communities with our brains and with our brawn, and with group in an overly, like, we’re gonna now not Benjamin Button it, like, age backwards in combination, however we’re. Like, I wish to be higher this yr than I used to be remaining yr. You already know, my 40s, have been beautiful just right decade, I were given fitter from 30 to 40. And now from 40, neatly, sorry, 40 to 50, and now 50 to 60, I wanna be even higher than I used to be in my, you realize, 50s. So, you realize, why now not? Why now not age like that?

Katie: And it kind of feels like we’re beginning to perceive an increasing number of about this being conceivable, and almost certainly in a novel manner, particularly within the mind, from my working out. In that the mind is able to virtually like regeneration, and neuroplasticity, and issues which can be no less than slower in different spaces of the frame. I believe we if truth be told have applied sciences rising that can let that occur in numerous tactics at a cell point right through the frame. However are you able to communicate a bit bit about a few of these new modalities which can be more or less making improvements to the frame’s capability for therapeutic?

Dr. Greg: Positive. The most important lever that I’ve came upon is round VSELs. In order that they’re referred to as very small embryonic-like stem mobile procedures. And those VSELs, after I graduated scientific college in 2001, we didn’t find out about VSELs. And so they have been came upon in 2005 through Dr. Ratajczak, at College of Kentucky. And so they have been principally regarded as detritus waste as a result of there used to be no lively biologic task in those cells that have been discovered within the serum of the blood, till we discovered a method to turn on them.

So those are cells that we have been shaped in utero in our mom’s bellies that created us. They’re embryonic-like, that means they may be able to change into any mobile of the frame. They pass dormant once we’re born. Every now and then, they’re activated in case you have like a coronary heart assault or some cardiac match. They’ll come again alive or flip again on and act, you realize, restore, then they return to dormancy. However we’ve discovered a method to turn on them with a laser after which information them into the frame for the place they wish to pass. So we actually shine the sunshine for the place the cells that have been activated through gentle wish to pass.

Katie: That’s so attention-grabbing. In an effort to be certain that I perceive, those are cells that exist in our personal frame. So although there’s the phrase embryonic, it’s now not that we’re taking those from embryos, those are our personal embryonic stem cells?

Dr. Greg: Proper. That’s proper.

Katie: I’m curious, simply as a pass over there. I’ve learn how, for example, when a mother is pregnant, cells from her child principally pass in her frame and will pass to a spot the place there’s an damage and assist restore it. Are those a an identical form of mobile or am I complicated two various things?

Dr. Greg: It will get complicated fast as a result of there’s numerous other mobile strains of stem cells. So those are embryonic-like, they’re now not embryonic, proper? So the embryonic are those that get started with the 1 then pass to the two, then pass to the three or the 4, then the ten,000 issues of the human frame. Those VSELs assist that, then there’s additionally mesenchymal stem cells from the placenta, that then also are circulating again to mother to assist restore. So there’s numerous stem mobile motion all through the rising of any other being within the abdominal, proper?

Katie: Were given it. K, however the ones we’re speaking about listed here are from our personal serum in our blood?

Dr. Greg: Yeah. So principally, we pull your blood, we spin it down, and it’s within the plasma, the transparent portion of the…you realize, the purple blood cells pass to the ground, then in most cases a wax separates the serum up above.

Katie: So are you able to communicate extra concerning the laser facet as a result of I believe like this section is in reality new. And I’ve best learn very, like, transient high-level stuff of this, however it kind of feels in reality fantastic, the possibility of this?

Dr. Greg: Yeah. So this can be a explicit laser referred to as a SONG laser that if truth be told adjustments gentle into sound. It’s were given a refraction on it have about…it refracts the laser. So it is going from gentle to sound. So it’s a valid wave that if truth be told is available in. And on it, on account of that refraction, there’s principally knowledge switch ahead and backward at the laser.

And so it’s a selected, you realize, Dr. Todd is his identify, he owns the patent on that laser and he’s the person who created the entire procedure and if truth be told is the author of this. So I wanna give, you realize, due appreciation and a shout out to him for locating this out. I’m on his scientific advisory board and heading up the neurodegenerative mind well being entrance of the analysis there.

Katie: So what does the possible and the long run appear to be each within the regenerative facet when any person already has this sort of extra excessive variations, and/or within the preventative facet?

Dr. Greg: If we opposite growing old through 7 years, we would chop all persistent sickness on the earth through 50%. So it’s conceivable that lets, you realize, in reality stay ourselves younger. No longer reside perpetually, however stay ourselves younger in that you realize, combating persistent sickness, getting out of ache, having complete mobility, having our power, having our idea procedure and, you realize, sharpness of thoughts, and many others. So at the longevity entrance, you realize, the sky’s the prohibit. And we’re coupled with the laser-activated and guided stem mobile process, and we use hyperbaric oxygen, and we even use historical generation like Chinese language drugs as neatly. So all of the ones issues wrapped in combination of assembly folks the place they’re at, measuring blood and plasmalogens and different such things as this of in reality running on mind chemistry, we will be able to, you realize, in reality make a distinction.

You already know, on account of this procedure that I went via, I planted the flag within the earth to, you realize, are we able to transfer the needle with neurodegeneration? The solution is sure. Are we able to do a greater task of that? Indisputably. Are we able to expedite the ones reversals? Sure. That’s what I’m running on, it’s what the folks that I’m speaking to in drugs, even outdoor of drugs I believe bioenergetics and sound and frequency therapeutic, I’m very fascinated by the ones subjects. And in reality making sound frequencies since the laser is going into a valid wave, which appears to be repairing the mind. And it’s additionally cartilage and…you realize, I will undergo numerous tales of you realize, folks wanting a hip, or a knee substitute, or a shoulder substitute, they don’t want it anymore on imaging. Their frame healed itself. So it’s tremendous thrilling of what the chances are and in reality taking a look at easing the struggling and/or getting folks again right into a thriving mode.

Katie: What does get right of entry to to those remedies appear to be at the moment? I understand it’s rather new, is that this one thing individuals are ready to seek out in maximum puts or if now not, how can any person in finding it?

Dr. Greg: So at the moment as a result of we’re nonetheless running on regulatory procedure, so there’s the extremely regulated device of drugs in america, for higher or worse. And so there’s a handful of clinics the usage of the VSEL generation. I’m the middle at the moment, in Portland, Oregon, and shortly to have a sanatorium in Park Town, Utah, across the longevity play so far as the mind regeneration element. Numerous other people are doing numerous longevity remedies. However this system and the transformation is, I believe, what units what we’re doing aside there. So we don’t have a website online for the suppliers. It’s referred to as Qi Era, is the identify of the corporate that owns the patents at the laser-guided and activated VSEL process.

The papers are simply getting printed. So there’s been two papers printed at the process. I’m hoping that there’s a 3rd popping out right here in December round…it’s 10 sufferers with coronary heart illness and injection fracture, bringing their hearts again on-line, which is tremendous spectacular. So I’m hoping that one comes out in December right here. So I suppose my long-winded solution for your query is, it’s now not tremendous available available in the market but however we’re in reality at the entrance edge and the entrance strains of this popping out.

Katie: Gotcha. And prefer we mentioned, confidently, the general public listening don’t have this sort of extra serious stipulations that they’re acutely coping with. However there’s such a lot to be informed from the ones stipulations that follow to all people. And with that being mentioned, it kind of feels like with each and every facet of well being and this too, there’s gonna be an overly multifaceted means. And I do know you had a background in practical drugs earlier than you even specialised in mind well being, so it makes me curious more or less what the intersection of the ones two issues seems like in different spaces as neatly. For example, beginning with possibly nutrition, which is…vitamin is my background. I’m curious if you happen to’re seeing any medical proof and/or for your observe, issues which can be useful to the mind from a nutritional standpoint?

Dr. Greg: There are. There are a ton. So there’s this attention-grabbing speculation for Parkinson’s referred to as the Braak speculation of taking a look at alpha-synuclein touring at the vagus nerve from the intestine. So doubtlessly Parkinson’s begins within the intestine. So we’re trying out…you realize, we cope with everybody’s nutrition. Meals is your best possible drugs. I imply, I’m a naturopathic document in spite of everything, and company believer in that. And it does make a distinction.

So you realize, you wish to have your oils, you wish to have your just right greens for nutrition minerals, you wish to have good enough protein to get your amino acids. After which there’s the vigorous a part of the meal too. So earlier than I were given into doing the embryonic-like stem mobile process exosomes or mesenchymal stem cells when the ones have been to be had a couple of years in the past, that’s the greatest lever that we in reality began to peer essentially the most exchange for other people. I used to be doing Chinese language drugs, naturopathic drugs, nutrition, remedy, vitamin, we have been having some receive advantages, however now not up to it’s in reality speeded up with this additional therapeutics on most sensible.

Katie: I’m with you, I all the time imagine nutrition the root of the rest. And I’ve mentioned earlier than, you’ll’t out-supplement a foul nutrition, you’ll’t out-exercise a foul nutrition, all of them must paintings hand in hand. However that being mentioned, are there any vitamins that we’re seeing within the analysis which can be particularly supportive of the mind which can be value supplementing? I’m positive there’s a person facet right here as neatly, like I discovered, for myself no less than, I’ve some choline-dependent genes and I don’t tolerate eggs really well. So I do in reality neatly after I complement choline. However are there any basic suggestions which can be mind supportive?

Dr. Greg: Yeah, so indubitably omega-3 fatty acids is the hugest class. DHA is the only constituent for mind well being. However they’re anti inflammatory, they’re superb for our phospholipid bilayer. New analysis popping out on plasmalogens which I didn’t in reality be informed that during scientific college. And Dr. Dan Goodenowe is popping out…he wrote a e book referred to as “Breaking Alzheimer’s” and printed on the Alzheimer’s World Conference right here this remaining yr on expanding plasminogen ranges in our blood and reversing Alzheimer’s, principally.

So oils are essential. The omega-3 fatty acids, the 3-6-9 ratio, plasmalogens is a large participant there. Degree of ldl cholesterol and iron within the blood are also superb markers for mind well being and may give some distinctive supplementation pointers. I additionally take a look at the thyroid so infrequently supplementing with thyroid supporting meals as a result of there are numerous other people with the Parkinson’s analysis with hypothyroidism.

So there’s more or less unofficial hyperlink there however I’m seeing there are some circumstances on PubMed of reversal of Parkinson’s illness with good enough thyroid medicine. Dietarily, supplementation, you realize, after I went to college…you realize, it’s such as you suppose you have got all of it discovered then , oh, no, there’s a fractal universe right here and there are such a large amount of ranges to what we’re doing. So the entire endocannabinoid device, infrequently it’s, you realize, a cannabidiol deficiency or ratio factor this is underlying the hormone imbalance. And there are extra receptors for CBD within the mind than the entire different neurotransmitters put in combination. In order that’s any other house that we take a look at, is taking a look on the CBD.

After all, the mushrooms. I’m in reality excited for extra psychedelic analysis to return out. I imply, that simply makes overall sense to me. Having a look at neural networks and the way mushrooms keep up a correspondence on the earth and our brains are just about arrange the similar manner. So lion’s mane, there’s numerous analysis popping out on lion’s mane. Chaga, those mushrooms, you realize, historical mushrooms which have been round, we’ve been the usage of them in Chinese language drugs for eons, and now they’re popping out within the west, which is in reality thrilling to peer. The B nutrients, you realize, B12, folic acid, they must all the time be taken in combination as a result of infrequently you’ll masks a deficiency someway with the ones.

The use of, you realize, the methylation procedure and taking a look at you realize, what’s happening with homocysteine within the blood. And that’s the methyltransferase pathway. So if you happen to’re now not methylating neatly or in finding your self with one of the deficiencies and the SNiPs, that’s a very simple manner of measuring what’s happening for your frame and for your blood. After which that might lead into, you realize, carnitine supplementation, choline supplementation, lecithin. So there are some easy nutritional interventions that you’ll do to additionally assist feed the mind. Magnesium is a brilliant one, you realize. So that is the place you more or less get into the, what I name the American shotgun means, proper?

Everyone involves me and says, “What can I take from my mind?” And it’s like, neatly, right here’s the entire issues they usually’re all neatly researched. However, you realize, whilst you line all of them up, and also you’re taking a gazillion dietary supplements, it’s such as you’re treading water and simply looking to stay your head above water. As opposed to what I name the Zhang of the formulation of path, the place you have got an emperor, and generals and assistants, everyone to line up and transfer you such as you’re doing the freestyle. In order that will provide you with some traction and motion to the place you wanna pass. And that’s the place the individualizing of this system is available in, via explicit trying out, ensuring we meet folks the place they’re at what’s their genetic platform? After which what’s the, you realize, subsequent best possible step for them on this second.

Katie: That does appear to be the fashion throughout all sides of drugs, fortunately, is that personalization facet. Even though, I can say magnesium is a routine advice…

Dr. Greg: Around the board.

Katie: With each and every skilled, each and every situation I’m but to have any person say magnesium is destructive. In order that turns out like a just right place to begin for numerous folks. You additionally discussed that omega 3, 6, and 9 ratio. So I’ve talked earlier than about one among my theories about the upward push in numerous persistent stipulations, is overuse of vegetable oils and polyunsaturated oils. And this turns out like any other one, I understand it’s a bit bit arguable, however a advice I all the time give is that our our bodies more or less advanced right through historical past with out the ones explicit fat, so we all know we will be able to exist with out them. And so till we’re extra positive, it kind of feels like an attractive protected factor to restrict or keep away from them.

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You additionally discussed ldl cholesterol. And I believe this may well be bearing on a bit little bit of a arguable matter however I sought after to deal with it. And I is also off base and right me if I’m mistaken, however I’ve noticed some proof that lowering ldl cholesterol an excessive amount of can if truth be told be destructive to the mind. And that can be in our concern of cholesterol-related to coronary heart illness, we may well be harmful the mind. Am I right about that? And if this is the case, how will we steadiness that?

Dr. Greg: Yeah, you might be utterly right on that. We’ve got long past overboard on manipulating ldl cholesterol. And there may be proof coming up, Ldl cholesterol underneath 200 which is now the present really useful quantity. After I began observe, it used to be 220. Neatly, what came about? We’ve got the arrival of statin drugs that we will be able to drop it down. However I believe what we’re doing could be very short-sighted in that we’re manipulating ldl cholesterol artificially too low. And also you take a look at what neatly does ldl cholesterol do for us? It’s the spine of the entire intercourse steroid hormones in our frame. It’s integral for the integrity of our mobile wall. We want just right ldl cholesterol, and it’s gotta be at the fluid dynamics so trans fatty acids must now not be within the nutrition. However we’ve long past too a long way.

And there’s some proof popping out on long-term statin medicine, which is a cholesterol-lowering drug being implicated in early-onset dementias, and mind, reminiscence problems, and many others. So, you realize, it hasn’t ever made sense to me to provide a mitochondrial toxin, only a statin medicine within the mitochondria, or the power manufacturing facility of each and every mobile of your frame. And the guts specifically has essentially the most mitochondria as it’s pumping always. The mind has numerous mitochondria too, through the best way. And so we’re toxing out the power factories of the frame to decrease a ldl cholesterol quantity that can or would possibly not transfer the needle. I imply heart problems remains to be the #1 killer on this nation, with over 50 million folks on statin medicine. So we haven’t in reality moved the bar in coronary heart well being with the arrival of this drug.

So it’s a bit, you realize, it’s arguable as it’s been pushed through the propaganda to mention decrease is best, decrease is best. However I’m now not seeing that clinically. And I can inform you, you upload plasmalogens into that blend and dialogue of ldl cholesterol as a result of plasmalogens make about 20% to twenty-five% of the mobile wall or the phospholipid bilayer across the mobile. Ldl cholesterol is the opposite giant primary portion of that. And, you realize, we may well be directly to one thing of bringing again our well being in consuming higher. I imply the ones ratios…I believe you’re spot on whilst you take a look at linoleic acid which is predominantly the acid that comes from the ones seed oils, the ones plant oils, the vegetable oil varietals, so they don’t seem to be just right for our well being.

Katie: I’m in reality satisfied you introduced up that mitochondria piece as neatly. I’m certainly not knowledgeable on this, however I’ve had a pair on visitors on just lately that concentrate on mitochondrial well being and it’s been more or less a analysis matter for me. And it kind of feels such as you discussed there’s a excessive focus within the mind and the guts. So that is, taking into account that there’s a upward thrust in stipulations associated with either one of the ones, perhaps one thing we must take a look at. And something that a type of visitors really useful used to be the significance of pure gentle for influencing mitochondrial serve as. And it made me surprise, is there a receive advantages to the mind as neatly? Particularly as we’re uncovered to an increasing number of synthetic gentle and not more and not more outside gentle, is there the rest we will be able to do the usage of pure gentle patterns to profit the mind? I do know, for example, it is helping circadian rhythm and deep sleep is helping with the ones amyloid plaques like we mentioned. However past that, is there a receive advantages to getting pure daylight for mind well being?

Dr. Greg: Oh, yeah. I imply, around the board, whilst you take a look at, you realize, the physicians that more or less received a Nobel Prize in Drugs used to be all about circadian rhythm riding all hormonal steadiness within the frame. So it does make a distinction, like the quantity of blue gentle that then suppresses melatonin, I imply, it simply more or less…the ramifications of what we’ve finished with gentle and our sleep cycles like, you realize, the brand new smoking is loss of sleep. So you realize, no person would, being attentive to your podcast, suppose that it’s nice for me to smoke a pack of cigarettes, like, it’s now not gonna have any impact on my well being, proper? However all of us do it of like 4 to 5 hours of sleep, or, no matter with youngsters or, you don’t get it, proper, you don’t get that point of sleep. However then the identical well being have an effect on is of smoking a pack of cigarettes an afternoon, proper? You simply may now not realize it, you don’t have that smoker’s hack within the morning however over the longer term, it indubitably catches you.

And so, you realize, indubitably in a mind well being serve as, proscribing blue gentle, the usage of the blue blockers at the hours of darkness, gazing LED lighting for your surroundings. I do know more or less everyone has switched to that for the environmental element. However once more, this idea of like, save the people, like we’re taking place. The planet is gonna be right here, we’re those which can be gonna disappear. So it’s, you realize, save the people, like, ok, we indubitably wanna be all ears to what sources we’re the usage of, and many others., and within the grand scheme of it, are we doing extra hurt than just right through now we’re eating extra poisonous drugs? I do not know. However, you realize, like, who’s taking a look at that gigantic image so far as now not simply the base line of power, you realize, burnt through candescent gentle bulb as opposed to, you realize, the entire different ramifications that occur from throwing our circadian rhythm off? In order that’s a large participant.

Katie: I in reality like your line about save the people. And if truth be told, one among my favourite quotes from this podcast used to be with my son. I interviewed him when he wrote a cookbook, and I requested him a query about environmental elements. And he grew to become it round on me, he’s like “Mother, you if truth be told requested the mistaken query as it’s now not that we wish to save the planet. The planet is a self-correcting organism, and it is going to ultimately save itself. It’s asking the query of will we get to stay residing right here when it does that?”

And I assumed that used to be a in reality just right level. And for your level simply now as neatly is the earth as a complete will self-correct. It’s simply going to be if it does it in some way that’s cataclysmic to people earlier than we repair those issues. I believe you’re proper, we wish to in finding that steadiness of environmentalism and likewise taking good care of people as a result of long run, the ones two issues wish to stay running in combination. However at the notice of sleep, what are a few things we will be able to do from a mind standpoint? How will we optimize our sleep? And perhaps what are a few things to concentrate on in terms of sleep?

Dr. Greg: So I really like monitoring it. So I put on probably the most Oura rings. However, you realize, there’s all of the ones gadgets available in the market now, the WHOOP, and you realize, the Fitbit, and, you realize, iWatch, all the ones issues are monitoring your deep sleep. So that you wanna be monitoring it as it does make a distinction as a result of whether or not you get up…you realize, I’ll see other people they usually’re like, “Oh, I slept horribly.” I used to be ok let’s take a look at your information. It’s like, neatly, if truth be told, you’ve were given good enough deep sleep, you’re over 20% rem, over 7 hours of sleep and also you weren’t stressed.

So, you realize, it’s like the tale that we lay on most sensible of the sleep which the information suggests like, no, it’s if truth be told we’d like a special tale right here. So it’s getting good enough leisure, so how do you do this? There’s sleep hygiene practices on our gadgets. You already know, it’s f.lux is a blue display screen blocker that is going because the solar units. Now it does make your display screen tougher to learn. However you take a look at that and perhaps you wish to have to show it down, flip it off, proper? It’s time to get off the pc. Getting outdoor all through the day, all through the daylight, all through the early mornings in reality does make a distinction.

Now, I reside in Portland, Oregon and it’s grey and darkish just about 9 months a yr right here. In order that doesn’t paintings. So it’s like entering into entrance of a few full-spectrum lighting within the morning, proper? Seasonal affective dysfunction is this type of giant factor up right here on account of that as a result of we’re now not getting the whole spectrum of sunshine on our our bodies. I believe permitting the sunshine not to all the time put on sun shades, don’t glance into the sunshine, don’t stare on the solar. However, you realize, get out within the daylight in order that that is available in. As a result of that’s stimulating melatonin, melanin at the back of the attention there and in your pores and skin, the melanin of your pores and skin that’s additionally then circulating and converting some hormonal steadiness for your frame.

So sleep hygiene is then, you realize, doing extra mild issues at the hours of darkness, like extra dialog. Mild strolling is ok, however don’t pass to the health club as a result of that’s gonna spike your cortisol and in all probability throw off your circadian rhythm. So it’s entering the ones well being conduct. From time to time it’s taking a tub, slowing down, being extra contemplative at the hours of darkness. Those are all actions that we will be able to do to assist fortify us into optimum leisure or, you realize, getting a crown if you happen to’re a hoop wearer or, you realize, alongside the ones strains.

Katie: All nice recommendation. And that morning gentle advice is any other routine one. And I find it irresistible as it doesn’t value the rest. We see within the lab effects it if truth be told performs out and makes a large distinction for your hormones as neatly. So it’s a type of…you realize, there’s those superb, like, VSELs and these types of cool issues we will be able to do. However there’s additionally those unfastened such things as sleep integration and daylight that we must get started with. Love when that one comes up. And as we get as regards to the tip of our time, I wanna be certain that I appreciate your time. However you’ve presented to percentage a bankruptcy of your e book with us. So I would like so that you can communicate concerning the e book. And I’ll ensure that hyperlink is within the display notes.

Dr. Greg: So in there, I’ve were given a duplicate of it right here. It’s referred to as “Shake it Off: An Integrative Option to Parkinson’s Answers.” Now, it’s now not on the subject of Parkinson’s. Sure, it’s Parkinson’s at the quilt, however this e book, it does lay out my entire FAN-C means. So F-A-N -C, my FAN-C method to mind regeneration. And that’s what we’ve got folks flying in from all over the world, to be handled within the clinics such a lot in order that we’re increasing out into Park Town, Utah house as neatly.

In there I format F stands for the practical means that we’re treating heart-centered dynamic beings shifting via time and area.

A is the review. And that is incessantly overpassed as a result of folks wanna pass to the N, which is the nerve well being, like, what can I take from my mind? As opposed to we wish to assess and switch over some stones as to chances as to what are hindrances for your frame therapeutic itself. 3 biggies just like the triad that I see are heavy metals, the intestine microbiome, and hormone imbalances. And so the ones 3 spaces, the ones are the low-hanging fruit.

Now, in fact, I mentioned in right here mildew and lyme and different culprits which can be additionally primary gamers which may be mimicking one of the neurodegeneration and/or entering into the best way of your mind therapeutic.

Then I am getting into N so of the FAN-C means. The N is the 3rd letter, and that’s nerve well being. In order that’s the entire other vitamins. Now, it’s now not exhausted. I imply, I don’t have peptides on this e book, as a result of the ones I in reality were given into the usage of afterwards. So we don’t have the peptides in there, however there are numerous peptides that you’ll take for nerve well being. Numerous the vitamins that I discussed all through this display, if truth be told it went above and past within the checklist. After which we get into the…oh, in that nerve well being probably the most different attention-grabbing issues that used to be exposed used to be I’ve a patent pending on a nasal spray referred to as Transparent Thoughts. And that is to in reality rid the frame of mind fog. And so it’s a potent neuro anti inflammatory. In reality places the fireplace out, as a way to discuss. And we’re having in reality nice effects with that Transparent Thoughts Nasal Spray.

After which -C is the cell regeneration. And so I used to be the usage of tissue allograft merchandise and different stem mobile merchandise exosomes, the ones have just about been got rid of from the marketplace in Would possibly of 2021 this yr with a legislation from the FDA that grew to become all of them into drug merchandise. So there’s numerous other analysis that has to occur there. However we’ve were given the VSEL, the laser-activated and guided very small embryonic-like process with hyperbaric oxygen and photobiomodulation, the PMF, and low-level laser remedies to all support the frame in its therapeutic reaction. In order that’s the FAN-C means that I lay out within the e book.

I even have all workout routines like Qigong workout routines that I used to be given. I studied in Sichuan province in Tibet as a Chinese language drugs scholar. And so it’s the Jin Jing muscle tendon converting Faculty of Qigong. So I do cloud fingers, and I’ve were given tremendous mind yoga within the e book, and I discuss nutrition, vitamin in there as neatly. So it’s a very simple learn. I in reality made it to be fed on, so to learn it for sufferers and their households. And in reality, it’s an effective way to take a look at even combating, you realize, if you happen to’ve were given other people with Alzheimer’s dementia or you have got issues that creating, the format and the framework within the e book although it’s titled Parkinson’s, it’s nonetheless an appropriate learn for mind well being typically.

Katie: Superior. Neatly, the ones notes shall be within the display notes in addition to related for your e book so folks can continue to learn. And talking of books, I’m curious if there’s a e book or plenty of books, but even so in fact, your personal that experience had a profound have an effect on in your existence, and if this is the case, what they’re and why?

Dr. Greg: You already know, the earliest e book that I believe had the largest have an effect on on my existence used to be Ram Dass’s “Be Right here Now.” I discovered that e book I believe as a sophomore in highschool, and it used to be my creation to any other global, I suppose, of chances. And in there, at the back of his e book, I believe I learn each and every e book within the sources division at the back of that e book. So it led me down, more or less via the entire non secular transitions. It led me to Thich Nhat Hanh and “Peace Is Each Step.”

And I in reality…you realize, Buddhist idea and non secular idea from world wide, and simply round the concept that of being within the now. And, you realize, it led me to Elizabeth Kubler-Ross “On Dying and Death.” I imply, it used to be simply principally instrumental of like, my curriculum of why I got here to the planet. And I discovered that during early highschool. So I’m so thankful to have discovered him as a trainer, and I were given to review with him some time he used to be on the earth. And it ended in such a lot of different issues for me. So, you realize, so far as earliest influential e book that I keep in mind, that’s the only.

Katie: I find it irresistible. I can hyperlink to that as neatly. After which finally, I’m curious, this will also be on a private point, or it may well be medically connected. Any simply most sensible items of recommendation, or the type of the 80/20 of stuff you in finding maximum vital for your personal existence for keeping up well being?

Dr. Greg: You already know, I believe there’s numerous taking a look outdoor of ourselves for the solution. And as I age, you realize, you take a look at all of these kinds of the sage recommendation is pass inside, the solutions lie inside. And that by no means in reality made any sense to me till, you realize, the previous couple of years and I’m like, holy cow, that is what they’re speaking about. Like, getting quiet, nonetheless, meditating, in reality creating a convention for your self, that you’re intelligence. My working out of the universe is in reality main in opposition to oneness.

And if this entire factor is one entity, and we’re all simply more or less separate however the similar more or less manifestations of one another, we’re simply, you realize, there must, primary, much more love must pop out of that idea. And quantity two, it’s in reality getting quiet sufficient to be able to if truth be told pay attention for your inside barometer of now not emotional or now not reactionary, however in reality, that also voice that’s in all people. And entrusting your intuitive sense as a result of you are going to be guided.

I imply, that’s my task as a health care provider, doctor, is I pay attention carefully. I love to mention I do numerous not anything all day. It’s the frame, and it’s the intelligence, and the drugs that in reality are doing all of the paintings. I’m keeping area. I will be a just right information and cheerleader, however in the long run, that’s what we wish to be doing for ourselves, is solely getting quiet and pay attention. And if you happen to get started asking the ones questions of your self, of your very best self, for the best just right, perhaps out of that interest, you’ll be stunned at the place you’re led and what solutions you get.

Katie: I believe that’s an ideal position to wrap up. And I really like that recommendation. I’m so appreciative of your time nowadays. This has been this type of a laugh deep dive into mind well being and well being typically, and I’m simply very appreciative. Thanks for being right here.

Dr. Greg: Oh, thanks such a lot, Katie.

Katie: And thank you, as all the time, to all of you for listening and sharing your most respected sources, your time, your power, and your consideration with us nowadays. We’re each so thankful that you simply did. And I am hoping that you’re going to sign up for me once more at the subsequent episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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